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Matt, I want to get rid of the content box. Stuff is there because it holds the box outside of the formatting. Removing it makes the box sit oddly inside one of the boxes. The box should be axed altogether.--Scornic 14:39, 4 March 2010 (UTC)


Contents

Ideas

So, a few things that should be implemented:


"Consistency of Spelling/Grammar" - Xgen is a Canadian Company, and is based in Canada. Therefore, Canadian English spelling and punctuation should be used throughout. Although the differences are minor, I have fixed a few 'American' spellings such as honour, flavour, rumour, etc. Canadian English is the same as UK English 99.9% of the time so users with UK dictionaries should be fine.

"Currently important(or popular) threads"

-This could be a box or section on the main page that links to currently important or popular threads. Examples include the Name Change/Mod application type threads, but this section could include popular threads in Spammerland or Irrelevance. This section should list 3-5 threads at any time.

"User of the Month"

-This could be a box on the front page that gives a brief description of one user and links to their userpage. Notable users who have been the center of a lot of attention are good candidates for this spot. For example, Katie would have been a good choice for this box back in December during the peak of her popularity.

Does anyone want to volunteer to head these things? --Scornic 15:24, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


I threw together a rough format for the user/article of the month. People should revise it and make it nicer (since I'm not the one trying to get Wikimod, as I already have those powers.)--Scornic 18:24, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Wanted Pages

  • XGen (The business; how it was formed, who works there, etc.)
  • XGen Forums (In general; when was it formed, who started it [I think Danny?])
  • Possibly pages for each XGen exclusive game?
  • Significant changes to the forums, such as XCash, The Arcade, etc
  • Ygen (both the first one and the more recent one)
  • phpbb ->vB transition
  • Feel free to add...

Anyway, these are just suggestions. Discuss, compliment, crucify, whatever. Naborr 19:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion for a new Discussion layout

It might be better if we split talk pages into seperate issues, with a heading for each issue, then users reply to those issues, adding their comment to the end of the section. Example;

Here is an issue

I think that bla should be bla, can this be done? -Person A at 11:00

Of course, I'll do it right away -Person B at 11:20
Hold your horses there, mister. --Lizard 01:32, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Works for me Chejrw 02:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


Discussion

Guidelines for how a wiki should be written?

I think that the XGen Wiki Rules should be expanded into a "Writing Guidelines" page, such as Wikipedia's "Five Pillars" of writing articles. The competition is likely to bring in a lot of good-willed people who don't know how to write for a wiki but do know useful info about XGen. They'll write something and it will most likely have opinions, bias, assumptions, etc., as well as facts. That writing would then have to be re-written or deleted, making more work for others. A short "Here's how you should write for the wiki" page wouldn't go amiss.--Lizard 18:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I already gave suggestions on how to write articles in that link you provided. Those should help. Evil penguin 20:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
The page only says: don't spam, don't be biased, spell correctly. It's missing things like: Cite sources, don't publish original content, avoid using words like "claim" which imply falseness. It should also be changed to be called Writing Guidelines, rather than Suggestions, because they aren't suggestions; they're all things which will get your work reverted if you don't follow them. I suppose a short list on the rules page will do, with more things added. Also, the rules page should be made more official, at the minute it's more like a talk page. --Lizard 21:12, 19 February 2010 (UTC)


Also somewhat relevant to this: Do you think we should have a "Category:Satire" so that articles which are making fun of the subject, or include humour, can be labelled? Reason being, some articles at the minute have a comedy value which makes them more interesting to read, so rather than making it more neutral and wiki-like, we could just put it in a Satire category (or some other name, not humour/humor because of the continental spelling) and leave it how it is. Then, there would be a category where people can go through and read all the funny articles and learn about XGen at the same time. --Lizard 01:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to add such an article. I suggest you prepare it then add it as early as possible on March 1st, so it can be counted in the competition. I am fine with the idea of some people throwing up their ideas and others rewriting or fixing them up. Writers block isn't a problem when someone already did the brainstorming, and it gives more opportunity for contestants to prove their worth. --Scornic 26 February 2010

I think my Spammer Land article would fall under that category. When I made it, I wanted it to be informative, but I didn't want it to be overly professional. Feel free to add that. Evil penguin 21:01, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

General Discussion

Seems nobody (including me) can think of something to write about, or (unlike me) is tired of the wiki already.

What's going on here? This place had a lot of activity and now it's a ghost town. Evil penguin 00:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

All right, I checked with Jordan and the Capitalized 'G' is 'correct' - I've been spelling it 'Xgen' for 5 years. Chejrw 18:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Are we aloud to create new entrys other than the wanted ones?

And I thought the word "impractical" would make my sarcasm obvious. --Aquamenti 17:21, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Please use the capital X AND G in XGen, I see it everywhere mixed matched and on the site and forums it clearly says" XGen" not "xgen" not "Xgen" not "X gen". Just a little annoying when it's a wiki about XGen.--Matt 11:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Every member on XGen speaks English, its an English-speaking website. Use google translator if you must read it in a different language Lizard 20:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


But most of SexGen members speak english so is it necessary? -Fabian


What about also translating pages? I know the wiki is quite young, but translations are impractical and cool, so why wouldn't we use them? --Aquamenti 14:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC) - But most of SexGen members speak english so is it necessary?


Well, I was actually wondering if I should include these http://forums.xgenstudios.com/showthread.php?t=162036 into the XGen Memes page. [[User:Fabian|Fabian] 9:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


Well look what I found! http://forums.xgenstudios.com/showthread.php?t=9361 I hear there's more of these kind, if I find them I'll let you know. I hope this can refresh someone's memory. Scornic 08:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I have a simple suggestion - in most, if not all pages, we could add a "See Also" section which includes internal links to related subjects, this would really help users found what they're looking for. In some pages, if there are very closely related external links, another section for these can be added. All this is also done in real wiki. --Aquamenti 16:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


Could it be possible to keep visited links blue as the ones you haven't visited, or does it have anything to do with my browser. If the latter, how can I fix it with my Opera 10a? --Aquamenti 19:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I added a CSS table that Naborr suggested to the wiki, this should allow for better tables and other includes. Let me know if you run into problems Chejrw 20:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I've formatted the discussion to make it a little easier to read through. After leaving a comment, please sign it with ~~~~ and leave a horizontal bar in between comments with ----. —Naborr 01:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the quote template doesn't like links to the forums. I suspect it has something to do with the 'forums' prefix on the url instead of the usual 'www'. Feel free to edit the html of the template, just make sure it works before you save it. Essentially, you type:

{{Quote|The quote here|The person here|The source here}}

And it should quote it for you. I'm not an expert on templates, so I don't know how to fix it to work with links to the forums. Any help is appreciated. —Naborr 01:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Naborr, could you explain how your Quote template works please? I just tried to edit the thread which was linked to in the quote tag on this page: http://www.chejrw.com/wiki/index.php/The_Elites_Club but it ended up just showing a {{{3}}} after Liokae's name...Lizard 20:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I ended up writing that in the rules. I didn't even know everyone else felt the same way. - evil penguin

I agree with Woolfenstien's thoughts on Placeholders. We need a way to inform every member when something changes, I'm not sure if there's a way to put a message on everybody's view of the wiki next time they load any page, that would be good. Placeholder articles are a waste, a topic should be made when the person is ready to make it, not left as just the article title until the person can be bothered to write something about the topic. Lizard 20:27, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

That sounds great, actually. Anyone knowledgeable on the subject should be encouraged to write about it. Their level of renown on the forum shouldn't matter. Naborr 20:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

While I still vote for keeping this Wiki on the down-low until it's near complete, I have an idea. I've seen a lot of members who stick completely to a specific game's forums, yet seem to be fairly competent and knowledgeable about said game. Do you guys think it would be a good idea to message some of these people, and kindly ask them if they would be willing to create pages for the game in which they reside? Some of those guys in the motherload forum, for example, have developed a neat .swf that displays point values for each mineral, based on which level you are on. I'd think they would enjoy writing a page about their game. Thoughts?Scornic 07:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Placeholders - are they really necessary? Anyone can edit a page, so while that means anyone can make them, anyone can also remove whatever gibberish some idiot posts.--Woolfenstien 22:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll contribute a little as well, Chejrw 19:37, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Then I shall improve as I see fit until I am ordered to stop. Muhahaha! Incidentally, four(4) tildes (~) consecutively leave a signature for you after you edit a Talk page. Naborr 19:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't know quite how this talk page works, but here's my response. You aren't overstepping any boundaries. I don't see this as my project, so much as I don't want to be the guy that comes here begging you guys to do everything for me. I encourage you to help in any way that you like. I'm just not asking for anything. The purpose of this is to give XGen something informative and useful, not for me to get an ego boost. Scornic 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I thought we could list pages that we think should be created here, until we really get going. This is by all means your project, Scornic, so tell me if I'm overstepping boundaries. Naborr 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Can someone figure out how to copy the [citation needed] and reference templates from wikipedia? I'd like to be able to request citations (generally links to forum threads in our case) in articles needing them, and add them as footnoted references in articles (instead of directly hotlinking them.

Chejrw 17:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:Citation Needed exists[Citation Needed] , and I just changed it to use the same style as Wikipedia. The actual Wikipedia "Citation Needed" is far more complicated and advanced than we'll probably need. For the list of references at the bottom of the page, Naborr was trying to get something like this to work with Template:Reflist, but all the #if functions and "Unknown extension tag "references"" don't work because we would need to get possibly 2 extensions from MediaWiki.

Getting those extensions is something I highly suggest, because they'd be very useful for making more dynamic templates and pages, take a look at "ParserFunctions" on the MediaWiki website. This looks like it's the fundamental extension to any mediawiki website which wants more functionality. You'll need to ask Naborr about what other extensions this wiki needs to get the Reflist to work.--Lizard 19:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Good to know. Just tell me what I need to install (you may need to walk me through it), and I'll do it. Chejrw 19:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions has installation instructions and a download link on the right. I'm not sure what other extensions are needed for the reflist thing Naborr was working on, but having ParserFunctions would be useful for most templates, primarily because it means that we can add optional arguments to a template. One example I can think of is {{Feature|Name|Content}}, the default feature tag for the Main Page, which could have an optional "Side" argument, {{Feature|Name|Content|Side=Right}} if we want the feature to be aligned to the right.--Lizard 20:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I just deleted a whole pile of useless redirects. Can we please stop making those? Unless there are a bunch of articles linking incorrectly, there is no need for a redirect. And even then, it would be preferable to edit the articles so they link to the right article rather than adding a redirect.

Chejrw 16:45, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia disagrees[1]; all redirects with serious names will help people find a page through searching, and allow for pages to be accessed via alternate spellings (humor -> humour, or the other way around), as well as common alternate names (chatbox -> shoutbox, elites -> The Elites Club). I agree with wikipedia's stance on "the more the merrier" with redirects. The only downside is if you want to browse the wiki via the "view all pages" special page, or have an accurate number of articles written. I don't think we should aim to have all the content on this wiki viewable in the "view all pages" list; there shouldn't be so little that you can scroll through it. You should, however, be able to search for anything.

At the minute, anybody who thinks that the shoutbox is called a "chatbox" will not be able to find its page; the only page they'll find is the XGen Chat page.--Lizard 18:57, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

There must be a simpler way of doing that. This wiki will have few enough articles to find them all on the show all pages list. Is there not a way to add additional search terms (like meta terms for web pages) to exiting articles? Chejrw 19:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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